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Poll: What about Invasion Masters? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

How many Invasion Masters should we have?

  1. 0 - Only Learner! (3 votes [7.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.89%

  2. 1 - Too many cooks spoils the broth (4 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  3. 2 - Need coverage for emergences (20 votes [52.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.63%

  4. More - the merrier (11 votes [28.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.95%

Do you think Butler can be trusted to do the job well?

  1. Yes (22 votes [57.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.89%

  2. No (16 votes [42.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.11%

Do you think Hades can be trusted to do the job well?

  1. Yes (21 votes [55.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.26%

  2. No (17 votes [44.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.74%

Do you think Rabbitman/Achilles can be trusted to do the job well?

  1. Yes (31 votes [81.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 81.58%

  2. No (7 votes [18.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.42%

Do you think Rat can be trusted to do the job well?

  1. Yes (15 votes [39.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.47%

  2. No (23 votes [60.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.53%

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#21 Fire

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:49 PM

ye man I know it was off topic,but I got carried away of my imagination

#22 Learner

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:54 PM

View PostFire, on 25 February 2014 - 11:27 AM, said:

Was wondering if its possible to code that inva starts automatically and mobs are keeping spawning during like hour (if an #il go under defined amount) would love such thing
Spawn groups already have the to spawn more monsters for N minutes. Some inva spawns do use that, but I keep the time short to prevent possible abuses or having to be a LOT more careful about where the spawn points for an invasion are at. If they were constantly respawning, I would expect people would end up trying to kill them off near where they spawn, rather then worrying about the hordes themselves. Using this feature needs to be worked with very carefully.

#23 samson

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:03 PM

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#24 butler

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:53 PM

Is RAT still wanting to be an IM? or somebody else. ( I wouldnt mind being one tbh :P)
I'll pay for poll with option like:

Do you want a new IM?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No

If so, who?
[ ] RAT
[ ] butler
[ ] neither, i voted no on the first one
[ ] neither, i dont trust either of them with this
[ ] don't know

How can they use their invasion powers?
[ ] Just Running Invasions (either there own or helping L)
[ ] Run events with L's permission
[ ] Run events (announced on forum with a week notice)
[ ] Don't Know/Other

Should they moderate channels?
[ ] No
[ ] Yes, but only in extreme cases, such as char spam
[ ] Don't Know/Other

#25 Fire

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:13 PM

samson I love when I come back after some time and see some ppl are still on same mind level eheh..
ye I would love Rat as IM ! :) Learner I will respond tommorow cuz Its hard for me read your text and now I have to sleep.

#26 Learner

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:55 PM

Keep in mind that an IM:
  • Is a mod & has mod powers along with invasions powers
  • The majority of the players need to trust them to be fair
  • I have to trust them to not abuse their powers or do invasions just to help with leveling or revenge
  • Needs to learn how to define invasion spawn groups (both file format in and game commands)
  • Needs to learn how to invade both EL & OL style invasions (with modifiers)
  • Needs to learn all the invasion related commands
  • Needs to have a thick skin because of people complaining or begging constantly
  • Needs to follow the invasions guidelines and try to make things fun for everyone, not just one group
  • Needs to be willing NOT to do invasions
  • Can not participate in the invasions
  • Can only give information about invasions oce a public channel (@1 or @6) or broadcast so everyone has a fair chance

Edited by Learner, 26 February 2014 - 08:07 AM.
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#27 samson

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:32 PM

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#28 butler

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:17 PM

View PostLearner, on 25 February 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Keep in mind that an IM:
  • Is a mod & has mod powers along with invasions powers Why the poll should be done. Also why ask how far they should take it "within their duty" not how they are physically restricted. Basically vote ground rules for IM.
  • The majority of the players need to trust them to be fair Poll :D
  • I have to trust them to not abuse their powers or do invasions just to help with leveling or revenge I dont like vicious cycle that things like that would do. Would do more harm than good, why would i do it :P
  • Needs to learn how to define invasion spawn groups (both file format in and game commands) I would be up for it
  • Needs to learn how to invade both EL & OL style invasions (with modifiers) ^
  • Needs to learn all the invasion related commands ^
  • Needs to have a thick skin because of people complaining or begging constantly I think i could deal with it.
  • Needs to follow the invasions guidelines and try to make things fun for everyone, not just one group Considering this is one of my points in my essay for newb keeping, and that I complained utterly about this in EL, i think i would try and cater myself to all.
  • Needs to be willing NOT to do invasions Yes.
  • Also i think I know what kind of things could make invasion fun. (probably)
  • Last thing, is anybody likely to stab me with a rusty blade if i set up a poll for it? :P

View Postsamson, on 25 February 2014 - 03:32 PM, said:

View PostFire, on 25 February 2014 - 02:13 PM, said:

<complete snip>

yes and you celebrated your return by grabbing both my death bags in nara a few hours after ya got back.

not that i care any more. have fun all.
Your quitting again? D:
oh im now quite sad actually.

#29 Fire

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 12:55 AM

How funny it is that stupid ppl even exist.You can say and think whatever you want,and I remember one such case ..fact is you only saw me walking on the map ,I was even with Rat so go ahead ask him.Next fact is I did not even know you died so just shut up moron.
I am tired of proving everone what I did or what I did not,go cry to mother and gtfo

Good to hear you leave,one retard less atleast



I dont have to be IM if Rat will be,I am pretty sure he will spawn us enought stuff as I would do :) cmon lets do a poll

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:29 AM

Fire you completely misunderstood what he said i think.

I'm going to see if RAT still wants to be IM and then maybe pay for poll to see if people want me or him if L trusts us both :P

#31 Hades

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:05 AM

I wanna be im, vote me

#32 scarr

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 06:47 AM

View PostHades, on 26 February 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:

I wanna be im, vote me
downvoted!

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:10 AM

View Postscarr, on 26 February 2014 - 06:47 AM, said:

View PostHades, on 26 February 2014 - 05:05 AM, said:

I wanna be im, vote me
downvoted!
lol

are you serious hades? or are you joking? I cant tell with you :P (I need comformation from RAT he still wants to before i pay anyway)
Also before i make poll i need Ls opinions on are trustworthiness, etc.

would also be nice to get some arguments why you think you should be IM, like your always on or know invasions, whats good. etc. Also im curious if we can have multiple (as long as they cooperate)?

Also i suppourt RAT, but i think id be a decent one too. probably.

#34 Learner

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:11 AM

Rat does have one advantage ... he's only a short drive from me if he really messes up!

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:41 AM

View PostLearner, on 26 February 2014 - 07:11 AM, said:

Rat does have one advantage ... he's only a short drive from me if he really messes up!
o/

L, any issues with volunteers? or poll?

#36 scarr

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:43 AM

View PostLearner, on 26 February 2014 - 07:11 AM, said:

Rat does have one advantage ... he's only a short drive from me if he really messes up!
Operation Toilet Paper Learners House has began

#37 Fire

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:47 AM

Shocker for IM!!! hahahahaha
Also,Hades would be nice IM

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:52 AM

View Postscarr, on 26 February 2014 - 07:43 AM, said:

View PostLearner, on 26 February 2014 - 07:11 AM, said:

Rat does have one advantage ... he's only a short drive from me if he really messes up!
Operation Toilet Paper Learners House has began
You forgot the eggs.
You swine!

View PostFire, on 26 February 2014 - 07:47 AM, said:

Shocker for IM!!! hahahahaha
Also,Hades would be nice IM
I think he'd probably prefer fighting them :pppp

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 09:04 AM

I spoke with Learner a bit about the IM position, and I would like to apply for it. A little about me, I started EL originally when the server opened, but did not really get into fighting until the last 3 years or so. For the last 3 years I have been consistently playing and have become the expert on the combat system in EL. I have done every instance in EL at least 50 times, and I have participated in invasions of every level.

I started OL the day the server came out, but decided to wait and see how it went when the internal bickering turned me off at the start. I came back approximately 4 months ago and have been loving playing OL since. I participate in the weekend invasions whenever I can, and I clear the leftovers when no one else wants to.

I realize that this position will limit the number of invasions that I personally will be able to go to; however, I think once we get a team of IMs in the future this will be less of an issue. If I am allowed to become an IM, do not expect me to give in to spam or very specific requests as far as invasions go. I will do my best to make it fun for everyone, but do not try and brow-beat me into doing exactly what you want, because it will not work.

So all this to say, vote Rabbitman/Achilles for IM :P.

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 09:32 AM

kk my turn :P

I played EL since 05/06 on off till 2012-2013. Played OL from summer last year, pretty much fully active since Kaddy/Angel/PandemiC kidnapped me.
I played mostly at the lower levels in EL, put fought with my level 60 char in 4060/6080/80100 invance ranges and 6080 instance, and know what makes a good balanced invasion. I have cleared quite a few of radus invasion single handedly, and have been arguing for balanced invasions in EL till they got fed up with it and threatened to ban me. I've been in two of the big invasion killing guilds and recognise what people want from invasions, but also recognise L's concepts in invasions and how they are meant to work. I am one of the most active people on OL as well.

Like Rabbitman, i won't give in if you try to pressure me into invasions ESPECIALLY if you are trying to suggest when to do it or where. I will also aim to try and please and keep busy the low levels, the medium and high as much as possible. I am experienced in OL Invasions, having fought most of the mobs in game. I have cleared invasions maps like KF bears when others didnt want to before as well. I would also but carefull in any outside weekend invasions with warning of wheres safe as to not disrupt people too much.

I may not have Rabbitmans Instance experience, but i do know how all invances/invasion/instances worked, have good ideas in the area ( i posted a fair amount on EL/OL forums) and want to make sure that the top invasion killers and the casual all have fun. As im not fighting too much atm but have this experience, i think it leaves me in a good position. I also think i could run interesting invasion/contests if community/L agreed if i was voted for as an IM.

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Again before i pay for poll i think we need to establish:
  • Whether L trusts these people (no point otherwise)
  • That Players want An IM(s)
  • Whether we are electing just one or maybe 2? different time zones etc.
  • thoughts?
One last thing, rabbitman, you need an avatar :ppp




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